Most people reject red pill explanations for male and female behavior because it’s offensive to what they’ve been inculcated with their entire lives. I wish I could make the catchphrase of this site “time to be a gentleman,” but that wouldn’t be congruent with the reality of the contemporary Western dating scene. Thus, I won’t make it known to people that aren’t close friends of mine that I’m on board with the red pill mentality. It isn’t prudent to expose your affiliation with such a politically incorrect movement to just anyone. I’ll drop red pill opinions here and there, but I make sure no one can see my computer screen when I check for updates on Heartiste. I believe in it strongly though, so I have told several of my close friends about it, but practically none of them have actually gotten on board with red pill philosophy.
It’s important to note that it’s rare to find a man that denies each and every red pill axiom that exists. For example, I can’t recall ever speaking to even one guy that truly believes that there is one soulmate out there for him. That’s not enough though. In order to to be on board with red pill, you must accept a highly qualified majority of its teachings. There are shades of grey and you don’t have to follow it like Shariah law, but if you are constantly in contention with red pill assertions, then you are not unplugged. The reason is simple. Even though the average guy might say that the idea that there is a soulmate out there for him is stupid, and that there are many women in the world he could potentially click with, you’ll still see him get oneitis hard for a chick who walks all over him. You’ll still hear him say things such as that it’s shallow to value a woman primarily for her looks, or that it’s hypocritical to judge women for being promiscuous, but not men.
Is it an exercise in futility to try to force someone in denial to accept red pill as truth? Probably. For most people, it usually takes some kind of personal tragedy that makes them approach their view on life with a blank slate, and even this is a far cry from a guarantee that they’ll start to truly accept red pill thinking. Otherwise, they’re happy to accept the status quo for what it is; they can’t even admit to themselves that they are unhappy. It’s still worth it to try at least once, because a friend in need is a friend indeed.
Here is a What’s App conversation that I had recently with a close friend of mine named Dan. It started when I sent him a link to my new blog so that he could give me some feedback. Many of the common accusations that are thrown at red pill are evident here, although the conversation is by no means comprehensive. Still, I was surprised at the length and depth of the dialogue after transcribing it to my computer. It is unabridged save for grammatical corrections and a few minor changes to improve readability.
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Dan: The impression that I got is that women have nothing going for them aside from youth and beauty; both of which are fleeting. And men need to trick women into fucking them by playing a game.
Dan: I think you should get out of Israel. You seem miserable.
Laid TLV: Ha, I agree with your analysis.
Dan: Which bit?
Laid TLV: Except “trick” is the wrong word, I don’t ask girls to play my new mouth based video game, rather it’s more about playing by their rules which rewards behavior that mainstream society would have you believe is counter productive to attracting women… objectifying her instead of respecting her, seeking dominance in a relationship instead of equality, not caring instead of opening yourself up.
Dan: That is how you bang girls not women.
Laid TLV: Dan……………….. You need to take the red pill.
Dan: Haha.
Dan: It’s true. Your target girl is immature.
Laid TLV: To the contrary, I usually bang older chicks, which isn’t a guarantee of maturity but they are indeed more mature than younger chicks I come across.
Dan: What I don’t get is, where is all the anger coming from?
Laid TLV: What makes you think I’m angry? Frustrated yes, but why angry?
Dan: What’s the difference?
Laid TLV: Frustrated is, “I’ve been working out for three months and haven’t seen the results I want.” Angry is, “Fuck this gym and everyone who goes here.”
Dan: They go hand in hand.
Laid TLV: Okay, but one doesn’t necessitate the other.
Dan: Frustrated is PC for angry.
Laid TLV: I don’t see that.
Dan: What good will come out of all this for you?
Laid TLV: Not becoming a cuckold and getting divorce raped. Recognizing that flings can be fun but the long term monogamous relationship is dead, at least in Western society. Realistic expectations. Happiness.
Dan: How is this increasing happiness? You’re bitter and, at best, frustrated.
Laid TLV: God damn right I’m bitter, but it’s a necessary growing pain when you recognize how all these preconceived notions about the male-female dynamic that you’ve been fed your whole life are bullshit.
Dan: They are, but why does that make you militant?
Laid TLV: I’m not a cult kind of guy and I don’t take these extremes lightly, but I’ve been reading about it and looking at the world with open eyes and it’s so true that even today it shocks me.
Dan: It seems you’ve taken it out over the perimeters of “having a good time.” You’ve become obsessed. What good will come of it?
Laid TLV: You told me recently how you’ve never slept with a girl you genuinely liked, and if I’m not mistaken you’ve never been in a long-term relationship. I don’t mean this as criticism but rather to point out these glaring inconsistencies in your narrative. When will you try to get to the politically incorrect bottom of why things have worked out this way for you, for me, and countless other guys?
Dan: I’m not trying to be PC. Also, I’ll be the first to admit that I’m miserable and disillusioned. I just think it’s a little sociopathic to make a game out of people.
Laid TLV: Dan, I know you don’t think that I’m sociopathic. “Game” is just a term that means applied charisma, or another way of putting it is being well versed in the art of seduction.
Laid TLV: Also, I can genuinely say that I’ve never deceived any girl, reeled one in close just to hurt her, or made a girl’s life worse.
Laid TLV: So where’s the sociopathy?
Dan: Hit it and quit it.
Dan: Evolutionarily speaking, men are programmed to pump someone full of sperm and then go and pump someone else full of sperm. It’s what makes us us. Women are, evolutionarily, quite the opposite. They’re programmed to be very discriminating with who they let dump their horrible semen inside them in order to crap out the best offspring they can. A male can squire theoretically thousands of rugrats in a lifetime, where a female can only knock out one a year- more or less.
Laid TLV: Yes you’re right, sperm is cheap and eggs are valuable. If you want to take the bio-evolutionary route then I’ll point out that your premise is true, but it goes much deeper when you think about how societal norms are in direct conflict with humans’ natural state of affairs. Women can sleep around and if they do then they’re empowered. If a guy does the same he just can’t grow up and commit to a real woman. Also, people often overlook that the male mating strategy of trying to fuck anything that moves yielded very few lifetime partners when we were just hunter-gatherers. There’s way too much to type on that subject.
Dan: If a man sleeps around he’s a stud, if a woman does she’s a whore.
Laid TLV: Anyway, the back and forth won’t go anywhere. I think you’re an open minded guy and I hope that you’ll reevaluate some of this “Roosh blabber” as more than just negs and pick up lines. There’s a much deeper force at work that is hidden from the view of most guys because society pulls the wool over their eyes with female-centric social conventions that keep them trapped and at the mercy of unrestrained female hypergamy. This might sound like gibberish or like sociopathic rhetoric or whatever but it’s not. I truly believe that any guy that ignores these truths is committing himself to a life of quiet desperation and involuntary solitude at best, or to get blindsided by the true nature of a woman that he thought loved him at worst. I don’t want to see that happen to my friends which is why I push this agenda so hard. I’ll leave you with one blog entry from a prominent writer that writes about these things far better than I can. He’s also married with a kid which surprises most people that resist the red pill mentality. I only ask that you read the one entry and if it doesn’t pique your curiosity enough to dive deeper down the rabbit hole then I’ll leave you alone about it.
Laid TLV: “If I have a friend that is shooting heroin and I actively encourage him to stop and make an effort to help him ‘clean up’, society calls me a hero or a savior. When I encourage my friend to quit smoking before she gets cancer, I’m a concerned good-friend helping my friend with a health risk behavior. But when I tell a friend he needs to change his approach to women and this is a reason for his unhappiness and he needs to change his outlook on, and approach with women, look better and feel better, then I’m a ‘shallow’ prick and insensitive to his ‘problem’. Worse still is even attempting to offer constructive criticism, in as positive a light possible, that a person can improve themselves by changing their outlook and modifying their behavior.”
Laid TLV: http://therationalmale.com/2012/01/13/just-be-yourself/
Dan: He has (you’ve got) a good point. I just don’t like the negativity.
Laid TLV: I get where you see negativity from me. It’s inevitable that you’ll be at least a little negative as you try to become good with women, but it’s not a bad thing just like how some degree of injury is inevitable for an athlete trying to improve. It doesn’t mean the sport is bad. But that’s from me. I’ve never sensed negativity from Rollo Tomassi, the guy who writes Rational Male.
